Brandon Curtiss: Life After Malheur And Standing On The Principle Of Truth

We stayed on our true north, and I don't regret a single moment of it.

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Brandon Curtiss – Founder of the Idaho III%

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It’s easy to be a critic after the fact, and I suppose in every person’s life there are those things printed by the local paper, or on some obscure blog out there on the internet, that can make any one of us look bad.  Rumor and opinion, mixed with innuendo that is strategically sprinkled with unflattering facts, can destroy a persons reputation, or in the case of Brandon Curtiss make a person that much more determined.

Brandon Curtiss became a key figure during the Malheur Wildlife Occupation, when he and his Chapter of III% out of Idaho had to choose between joining the occupation or leaving Burns, Oregon where the event took place.  Like many who supported Ammon Bundy’s message but not the takeover itself, Brandon suddenly found himself faced with the dilemma that no matter what he chose to do, it would effect the way he would be perceived by both the Patriot Community and the Government.  This is Brandon’s story.

 

Interview with Brandon Curtiss:

DJ – How did you hear about the Hammond family, and why did their story resonate with you?  Why did their story make you want to go to Oregon?

BC – I went to Burns for the first time – sometime in the last week of October 2015.  BJ Soper told me the story about the Hammond’s and I wanted to go there to talk to them, you know, so I could find out for myself. I went back a few times and it’s still very emotional for me to think about, what they told me was happening to them.

DJ – And what was happening to them, Brandon?

BC – They felt abandoned, that’s exactly what they said. They were abandoned by Sheriff Ward, they were abandoned by Judge Grasty, but worst of all they felt abandoned by their own community.  They had given up all hope that anyone cared about what was happening to them.  Mr. Hammond was going to prison and it was so sad, and I wanted them to feel like they were cared about and not forgotten, that’s why we went, that’s why we were there.

DJ- Did you offer to stand with them, protect them, if they would decide not to go to that prison?

BC – I did, and I would have. It was such an injustice what was happening to these good people. They had already been to prison once for what the government said they did and it just wasn’t right. 

DJ – Leading up to the rally did you ever think that the Hammonds’ might change their minds and decide to take a stand?

BC – Absolutely, we never gave up hope that they would change their mind.  They wanted to but they were scared to death. We had hope right up until the end that they would decide not to go – we even had a legal team ready to start fighting for them. The Hammonds’ knew that. 

DJ – Brandon, let’s move forward to January 2nd.  There was an overwhelming show of support for the Hammond’s and by any standard you had to have been thinking the rally was a great success. Hundreds of people showed up from all across the country. When the information first started getting to you that a takeover of a Wildlife refuge was happening, what were you thinking? How did you process it?

BC –   I had a serious WTF is happening moment.  It was total confusion and chaos in my head; and as it all sunk in I had this overall feeling that something terrible was going to happen if these guys went through with this.  That feeling never left me, not one time during the whole process, from beginning of the occupation to the end. Everything I knew about law enforcement told me there was a real probability this was going to end badly.

It wasn’t like I was given months , weeks, or even days to think about it.  One minute we are having a peaceful rally and the next we are being asked to participate in something much bigger.  We were thrown into a situation we knew absolutely nothing about – involving  people we knew absolutely nothing about.  As a leader I felt there was no way I could ask the people under my command to do that — I needed time to assess the situation. To figure it out. But I knew immediately I was not going to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge that day, in my mind that was just not going to happen.”

DJ – After the occupation started and they were all up there and you realized they were going to go through with this, what was the key factor that caused you to stay?

It was actually an easy decision to make. We had made great strides in that community before the occupation but there was still a great divide there, and we knew immediately that divide was going to grow.  It came down not only to an obligation to stand by Ammon Bundy – to watch over him during a situation that was going to get bad when the FBI got there – but we owed it to the community to stay too. We loved those people, we had made good friends there. We just couldn’t walk away from that responsibility, we had no choice, we had to stay.

DJ – Why Brandon? What did you think was going to happen to this community?

BC – I was a law enforcement officer in a small town for eleven years, I had also talked to Ward and Grasty many times. I knew the first thing those two guys were going to do was call in the FBI and ask them to come in force and it was going to rip that community apart. And when they did that it set into motion a train of events that would lead to the death of LaVoy Finicum.  I blame Steven Grasty for that – he orchestrated every bad thing that happened in that town during the occupation – including the murder of LaVoy Finicum.

DJ – Was it just the FBI you feared would be coming?

BC – We knew there was a strong possibility a fringe faction of the Militia might show up. A very radical faction. It wasn’t a matter of if, but when – so we convinced the FBI it was in everyones best interest to let us stay and monitor that situation. We wanted them to know we weren’t leaving.  We went out to the airport where they were building up and told them that. It was no secret, we told them we would be there to help facilitate a peaceful resolution.  Ammon was aware – everyone was aware – My group was in contact with the FBI and Ammon Bundy – We were very transparent – We had to be – It was a very dangerous situation. Watch Brandon in this iconic video at the airport with the FBI – Burns Oregon  – January – 2016

DJ- Did you have a point of contact with the FBI?

BC- I did – they had my number – I gave it to them right there at the airport while the camera was rolling – I promised them if they stayed cool and didn’t become aggressive – we would keep the lines of communications open with the occupiers. 

DJ – Brandon, I was present for some of those calls between you and the FBI – so I pretty much know how it went , but can you explain what kind of information you gave the FBI?

BC – Mostly they would call me whenever they would hear me on live stream talking about a call to action, or a meeting we were planning – They would want to know about those things – They would ask me what it was about. 

DJ- Did you ever give them information about the occupation?

BC – Just what Ammon wanted them to know.  If Ammon wanted me to relay a message, I would do that. If Ammon needed information about what was happening in town with the FBI, I did my best to get it for him.  We patrolled the area for any build-ups and kept a general eye on what was happening. I would relay that to Ammon if I had a concern.  

DJ – The FBI pushed a few times for more information didn’t they?

BC – Yes they did, but I never crossed the line, I never did – I made it clear to them we were only there as a buffer to make sure another Waco didn’t happen; that was a huge concern and we knew what they were capable of.  The discovery will prove that the FBI was often times frustrated with me. I am confident that when the discovery comes out everyone will know I tried my best to do the right thing. People will see the truth.

DJ – Being in Burns, there was a time when we all felt the attitude of law enforcement change. Can you explain that to everyone?

BC – It was toward the end and I felt it immediately – Officers who were once friendly, you know the guys that stopped at a table or out in front of The Silver Spur to say hello and just chat, wouldn’t even look at us now.  They became aggressive over night. They were surveilling us pretty heavy. Where they once wouldn’t even pull into a parking lot we were in, they were now waiting for us when we came and went and would follow us everywhere.  They started scanning license plates too. They brought in the lighted signs they use for construction zones and we knew they were getting ready to shut down roads.  The town was going into lock down — it was inevitable and very apparent at that point.

DJ – Did you make Ammon aware of what was happening?

BC – Yes. It was one of the two times I went to the refuge to personally give him a message – I didn’t want to give it to him over the phone. I told him they were getting ready to shut him down.  I told him it was over and it was time to leave.  I offered to escort him and the other  people out of the refuge. I told him the FBI and local law enforcement were building up for something big, and that they were becoming more and more aggressive toward us. I also made him aware that FBI presence had tripled in a day. The airport and every hotel parking lot was filled with FBI vehicles. From m-raps to helicopters and drones, they were ready to lock that place down like it was Filjah.  I also told him the hospital had activated it’s emergency triage unit, and begged him to let us get him and the people out of there.  I told him our plan was solid. The FBI was still saying at the time that they could leave, we wanted him to take advantage of that.

DJ- What was his answer?  How did he react?

BC – He said he would have to think about that, because so far law enforcement had left him alone and pretty much let him come and go as he pleased.  I tried to explain to him that this was all a psychological maneuver very common in a situation like this.  They let you get comfortable enough to put your guard down and that’s when it gets dangerous. I asked him if he really thought they were just going to let him stay there forever, and then said to him, “because they aren’t”.   “Ammon, they are going to come after you”, I said.  I expressed to him once again that the window of time was closing for a safe escape and that we could get him out of there, but again he said, he wanted  more time to think about it. I left that day with a heavy heart.

DJ – There are some people who say you didn’t do enough, that you and the Idaho III% didn’t do enough to help Ammon Bundy.

BC – I tried to get him out – I tried to reason with him. Ammon called the shots on that one.  If he had left with me that day, I would have done whatever it took to get him and those people to safety. We still had a small window to get out before the FBI could react. But he said no, and what am I suppose to do after that?  I told him the situation he was in and he turned me down.  Same with the final 4, they dug their heels in and refused to budge, there was nothing I could do.  

DJ – Brandon, where were you when you got the call about the ambush, and that LaVoy had been killed?

BC – I was home with my kids.  I would leave Burns on a Sunday or Monday and come back on Wednesday or Thursday. That was a pattern we had established early on. We had to take care of our kids and what was left of our business. We got the call late on the night of the 26th and we were back on the road headed toward Burns before the sun came up. 

DJ – Did you think that because law enforcement had ambushed occupation leaders, what you had warned the FBI about would happen if they hurt someone, was actually becoming a possibility ?

BC – Oh yeah, it was a very strong possibility. It was extremely emotional for everyone. Just like everything that happened during the occupation the situation was fluid, meaning it changed so rapidly we hardly had time to assess what was happening. I began making calls immediately to try and gauge what was happening out there. By the time I got to Burns many of the people who were up there at the refuge had packed up and left. The FBI had set up a perimeter that nobody was getting through.  Had we tried it would have been a bloodbath. Had we done that we would have done nothing but get more people killed. We had to use common sense and it wasn’t easy.  We began negotiating with the FBI and the people who wanted out for safe passage. Between us and a woman named Barbara Berg, who was stationed at the campground 6 miles from the refuge, we were able to get some of them to safety.  Barbara was key to getting them out. She had a vehicle and was the only person on the inside who had any influence with those left up there. She stayed calm and did a great job.  

Given the fact leadership had been taken out and one man was dead, given the fact most everyone had left the refuge, and Ammon had put out a stand-down order – I knew it was over – it was time to stand down – not amp it up.

 DJ – Brandon, what do you think of Ammon Bundy today?

BC – Ammon Bundy is a good man. His heart was in the right place and I honestly believe he never meant for anyone to get hurt. He had a vision of a better life for the people of Harney County and the western states in general. He felt the Hammond’s deserved to live free and in peace just like we all do. None of us could have truly predicted what would happen.  I believe what Ammon did was nothing more than an act of civil disobedience and defiance in the face of tyranny.  I respect him for what he did. What he did brought much awareness and he did it because he honestly cared about what’s happening in Harney County and this country as a whole.  How can we as a people judge him for that?  He paid the ultimate price and he did it because he cared enough to stand for what he believed in.  If we could all muster up that kind of courage we could change things. I can’t honestly walk away from this and not feel guilty that I maybe didn’t do enough, but I did the best I could at the time.  We have all been changed by it – it has changed me forever.  Ammon accomplished that much.  He is a true American Patriot – Nobody will ever be able to take that from him – He has earned it.

DJ – So how are you now Brandon, how is life after Malheur?

BC –  It’s hard sometimes. I have many sleepless nights. I think anyone who lived through what we did left that place with some form of PTSD.  It wasnt easy – it just wasn’t alright.  I didn’t get arrested but I am losing many things both personally and financially.  I put everything I had into this movement and the government is seeing to it that I pay for my part in it, they are getting their pound of flesh from me. They have seen to it my name was smeared all over the local paper. I am financially bankrupt.  I lost what was left of my business. I can’t even pass a security check at the airport to meet my daughter at the gate when she flies home from seeing her mother.  

But still I’m proud of what we did, the Idaho III%.  We did it for the right reasons. Because of ours and Ammon’s efforts the people of Burns who never had one before have made great strides in finding their voice and we hear them loud and clear.

We exposed a lot of corruption in Burns and Harney County.  We were changing the way people looked at their government there. Between Us, Pete Santilli, and the work Ammon Bundy did, to bring it all to light, I know that place will be changed forever. The people who found their voice will be changed forever.  The government will not find it so easy to run all over them anymore.  We gave them a black eye and they didn’t like it.  They never do. I hear lots of good things coming out of that community, but still there is a lot of hard work that needs to be done.  It is now up to them to carry it forward, but we are just a phone call away if they need us. I wouldn’t hesitate, none of us would.

As hard as it is to sleep at night,  I put my head on my pillow knowing I did the right thing. We all did.  We all stood on the principle of truth, and when you do that – everything falls into place in the end.  We stayed on our true north,  and I don’t regret a single moment of it. 

End Interview

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  • Melina Bilodeau

    Great job Deb. That was a great article, great capture. Took me back to Burns, The Silver Spur and The Refuge…Thank you for sharing Brandon.

  • Agreed. Standing oblation Deb.https://youtu.be/J3UjJ4wKLkg

  • April Herringdine

    Exiltant article. I wasn’t on the ground in Nevada or Oregon. However I have followed since 2014. What has happened out there in both states. To these American citizens. Is an absolute violation of their Constitutional Rights. It has been an emotional roller coaster for many. But I am very proud of the stand they have taken and will stand with any of them anytime.

    • Amanda Blankenship

      What rights would that be? The right to graze cattle for free on government land, or the right to seize public property and claim it as your own?

      • Leon Spinkx

        Exiltant!

      • notliberal

        ;-/

      • Bob

        I believe she said “constitutional” rights, but obviously you can’t read. I see your your not only deaf and dumb, but also blind.

        • Leon Spinkx

          Agreed. The rights to graze cattle for free on government land and to seize public property at gunpoint are protected by the 44th and 69th amendments, respectively.

          • Bob

            Please show me picture of seizing public property by gunpoint….waiting….. Oh that’s right, you either a) believe everything the television tells you or b) LIE. …still waiting…….by the way, Oregon has open/carry gun laws which means they broke no law so please do send pick of seizure by gunpoint ….still waiting….

          • Leon Spinkx

            Dude, I’m agreeing with you. Obviously all of the pictures of the Bundyites with semi-automatic weapons patrolling the bird refuge were faked by 0bama, as were all the facebook posts admitting to being heavily armed and with IEDs. Stand against Tranny!

          • April Herringdine

            Yeah Leon do your own research because Judy. Knows she can not provide proof to back up her ridiculous comment.

          • Judy Jackson

            Do your own research. There is a little thing called the internet to help with that. There are a lot of pictures of the firearms carried by the potatriots at Malheur. Ammon even had his cute little spiral with a list of who brought what type of firearm. The potatriots put EVERYTHING on social media because they are idiots. Here is a teensy clue. IF you decide to invade somewhere, DON’T put it on You Tube. You’re welcome.

          • reedrk88t

            You stupid old troll, people were on the ground there and are friends and professional aquaintences of the family. Even some Govt employees provided counter proof to the BLM that they do not have rights the land in question. You need to just fade away with your die hard commitment to the Feds and your anti American attitude. There was time in our history when we shot the enemy for treason……. Your time is coming and you willl be held accountable when this country falls apart. Traitors will be rounded up and removed from society.

          • Judy Jackson

            My time is coming? From who? You people can’t even get a good protest together. Operation American Spring, One Million Truckers to DC, Two Million Bikers to DC, all failures. MY personal favorite? The cross country march to take back our country that apparently got cancelled when drunk dumbass organizer #1 shot drunk dumbass organizer #2 between the eyes. You people are a collective joke. Also, anyone who comes onto my property with intent to harm will be met with buckshot. Not all liberals are unarmed, we just don’t wave our firearms around in public.

          • Bob

            No you liberals just sit on the House Floor and scream for gun control all the while armed guards are protecting them! NOW THATS FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Der Duh Der

          • notliberal

            wow — Judy you need to seriously think about upping those bi-polar meds — now you’re talking about killing people???

          • Judy Jackson

            When someone says “your time is coming”, that could be construed as a threat. One of the perks of living in Texas is that I can protect myself & my home. My dad & grandpa taught me how to protect my home.

          • notliberal

            Good for you Judy — That’s what its all about — protecting whats yours — and with a gun no less — I’m proud of you girl!!

          • notliberal

            Now if you could just learn the concept of helping your neighbor protect what’s theirs — you’ll be a full blown PATRIOT

          • notliberal

            The Hammonds were threatened many times — they weren’t allowed to protect what was theirs with a gun — the government came onto their property and just helped themselves —

          • notliberal

            By the way — I don’t care where you live or what you think you own — If the government wants it — they will take it — the end

          • notliberal

            Judy — you’re from Texas don’t play the puss role — it makes you look silly

          • jgreencyclist

            It’s funny when people who are a laughing stock to the nation don’t even know they are a laughing stock, they come across as clueless, pompous buffoons.

          • notliberal

            trust me j — people laugh at you too — lol <— see I just did

          • TK Berger

            It’s funny…but it’s also heartbreaking. They can’t spell for shit, they resort to personal insults when someone disagrees with them, and they don’t even get that the basis of some their arguments (e.g., “You don’t know the FACTS!”) is a joke because the word “fact” has an actual meaning (that does not include “A guy said this on a YouTube video”)

          • Bob

            “Invade somewhere” …like a public building out in the middle of nowhere to make a stand against corruption?! And now that “stand” is exposing TRUTH of the corruption. Yeah, that’s what I thought you meant, Lol. Last time I checked, Oregon is an open/carry state which is perfectly legal to carry A fire arm in public. Sounds like it’s time for you to step away from the tv and do some research. You may want to start with the constitution 😉 Have an awesome day!

          • Judy Jackson

            A public building that was closed for a long holiday weekend. I don’t watch much tv, you cretins are MUCH more entertaining. You guys & gals are like a real life soap opera. Drama, crime, adultery, psychotic breakdowns, comedy, roided up guys like Blaine Cooper & Jon Ritzcracker. Sarah Redd Buck chasing after other women’s husbands & poor Melissa Cooper begging for money to buy toilet paper, Meth head Billy Fisher “guarding” the shrine to Saint Lavoy, whining for donations. Seriously, you guys are HILARIOUS.

            MAYBE you should pitch a reality show to Mark Barnett? Might help pay some of the lawyer’s fees or help people get to the BIG EVENTS like SSG Moe’s patriot gala. OR you could help Al Hinds get his rolling solar powered, whatever the hell he is building in his shed on the road. OR, you could host Gavin Seim’s speaking tour. Gavin has had the sadz because his tour in Texas was a big failure. OR you could teach people how to use social media sites. LOVE that they put everything on You Tube.

          • Bob

            Your comments make me want to grab popcorn and read your imaginary circus sideshow you make up as you go….poor thing, It must be tragic to be you.

          • Judy Jackson

            It is great to be me. I have a good job, a pretty house in a quiet neighborhood & a great family. The worst part about being me is knowing that my taxes go to support welfare bums like the potatriots.

          • Bob

            ONCE AGAIN: “”You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.” Revelation 3:17

          • notliberal

            but but — isn’t thats what being a liberal is all about?

          • notliberal

            Judy wants to make it clear that “I have a good job, a pretty house in a quiet neighborhood & a great family.” she sure doesn’t want to be associated with those other kind of gun toting liberals —

          • Bob

            “Train up a child in the way he should go,
            And when he is old he will not depart from it.” Proverbs 22:6 ~ Yea Gavin!

          • notliberal

            lol — you are seriously invested in this huh?

          • notliberal

            yeah — but not so much pimp ‘in as big as you all do those little Sandy Hook kids — I shutter — ahhgggg

          • Amanda Blankenship

            It’s legal to carry firearms, not legal to threaten and intimidate people.

          • notliberal

            the internet is not a little thing — It’s quite large actually — just trying to help you through the meds haze Judy — Now don’t ya’ll get mad and threaten me with that big ole bad-ass Texas shotgun of yers again —

          • Judy Jackson

            First off, it is spelled “y’all”. Shotguns are for men with teeny penises & don’t work well with concealed carry.

          • April Herringdine

            Lmao why don’t you go watch the videos and tell me afterwards who had the guns pointed at who. Who the aggressors where. You’ll be real surprised at how wrong you actually are. Does being a government troll pay good?

          • Judy Jackson

            Unfortunately, I don’t get paid by the government. I wish I did. Stay home, watch you people make fools of yourselves & get paid. BEST.JOB.EVER. Sign me up.

          • reedrk88t

            Leon, you and Judy need to buddy up. Troll buddies with no proof that the land was not owned by the Bundy family. You really should go out with Judy for coffee and make a plan to rule the world…. It would be fun to watch you 2 burn, wait, she has a head start on you.

          • jgreencyclist

            They leased the land, understand? Leased! Not owned. Sheesh, it’s not a difficult concept.

          • Judy Jackson

            Court documents spell out exactly when the Bundy Bunch moved on to that land. The Bundy Bunch has been caught in so many lies, they can’t keep their stories straight. Google images shows the actual Bundy property. It looks like a junkyard.

      • April Herringdine

        I can tell that you have NEVER read the Constitution. If you had you would know that. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN THE LAND . Article 1 section 8 clause 17 of United States Constitution, states The only land that the United States government has any legal right to claim as their own is 10 acers in DC. They can lease land from the states for forts or ports. However only with the consent of the states. We the People….Notice the WE. That’s you , me, The Bundys ect. We own the land of this Nation. So for federal government to levy fees on land they do not in fact own. Is illegal. However Bundys paid fees he owed the state of Nevada the rightful enitity to levy fees and taxes on that land. So you see there is no need to argue public land rights. It already belongs to WE THE PEOPLE. ANYTHING THAT TAX DOLLARS PAYS FOR. AND HAS THE WORD FEDERAL ON IT . BELONGS TO WE THE PEOPLE. EXCEPT FOR THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK. THAT IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BANK. THAT HAS CONTRACT WITH GOVERNMENT TO PRINT US CURRENCY. SO READ THE CONSTITUTION & Declaration of Independence. And learn something before you spew nonsense.

        • Judy Jackson

          200 years of history & case law disagree with you.

          • April Herringdine

            Show these case laws that dispute the Constitution. The SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND!!!!!!

          • Judy Jackson

            Typical potatriot princess. Too freaking lazy to do her own research. Do you have a GoFundMe to beg for money like the rest of the potatriot loser brigade?

          • reedrk88t

            Typical hypocritical moron with no proof… Quit trolling websites Judy. You have been called out on FB and ran like a bitch because you falsely accused people and tried to cause strife with the cops. Take your trolling ass offline.

          • Judy Jackson

            Please, you morons couldn’t call 911 unless you have it on speed dial.

          • Bob

            Yes! I have a Godfundsme page! How did you know? ~~~
            “For it is You who blesses the righteous man, O LORD, You surround him with favor as with a shield.” Psalm 5:12
            “The LORD is their strength, And He is a saving defense to His anointed.” Psalm 28:8

          • jgreencyclist

            Look it up yourself. It’s not our job to spoon feed you.

          • notliberal

            Do not bring spoons into this!!

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Google “Can the federal government own land” and take it from there

          • reedrk88t

            You need to provide it. Has your status as a traitor not caught up to you yet? When are you going to learn that you carry no weight in the human factor? Move on troll.

          • Judy Jackson

            The internet is hard for people like you. Practice will help.

          • Bob

            And the Bible is hard for you: “But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 3:14 Reading the bible will help you!

          • Judy Jackson

            I am not much on fiction these days. I prefer history.

          • Bob

            The bible is your history. “They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.” Ephesians 4:18

          • Judy Jackson

            The Bible is the best selling novel of all time.

          • jgreencyclist

            When people start quoting scripture, that’s when I start ignoring them.

          • Bob

            JGREEN…right on que! LOL “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” James 4:7 Awesome!!

          • notliberal

            well, if that’s all it takes to get rid of you — lol
            But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

          • Bob

            My 2000 year old bible disagrees with you. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” Revelation 22:13

          • Judy Jackson

            The Bible is not the law of the land in the USA. Try again.

          • Leon Spinkx

            Thank god! So to speak…

          • Bob

            It is THE law of the WORLD. Even better 😉

          • Jean A. Roberts

            Maybe your world.

          • nice

          • jgreencyclist

            Cue in “Twilight Zone” music.

          • Crazylady

            Judy and Amanda i sure hope you both are first in line in the FEMA camps. It’s clear you are followers of evil doers and it shouldn’t be a problem for you in your little camps since you have your heads in the sand. God does and will always control this earth and when the time comes you will regret your choices in life. Ammon on the other hand will be thankful for his. If one has to hide behind fake identities, one shouldn’t be on the internet. You can dish it but you can’t take it. You’re clearly afraid of the big bad wolf and your government you profess is so good and faithful will surely protect you from these big bad wolves?

          • Judy Jackson

            Not afraid of anything except for snakes. IF I am in a FEMA camp, it is because I will be running it. YOU are the one who is afraid. There are psyche meds that might be able to help you.

        • jgreencyclist

          Here we go again with the ten square miles (? acres?) bulls**t again. Just repeating a lie over and over does not make it true. Even if you use ALL CAPS!

          • Bob

            Poor baby, Truth hurts that bad? LOL (yes, all caps!)

        • Judy Rae Jackson

          YOU need to read the REAL Constitution, not the annotated Skousen version.

      • reedrk88t

        You are the very tool that states bullshit from the very first vowel from your lips. Were you there during the alleged cattle grazing freely? Did you know that the see does exist that shows the ownership belonged to that family prior to and form of Govt management? Did you actually see the documents presented in court in Nevada? It’s amazing when someon so emotionally charged and so pro fed just has to amp up everything and then throw a temper tantrum when they are called out for no proof… Amazing attempt at being adult.

        • Amanda Blankenship

          Cliven hasn’t paid his grazing fees in years, therefore his cattle are grazing “for free”. Ironically the BLM doesn’t even own the grazing rights anymore, they were purchased by the State of Nevada in 2006.

        • jgreencyclist

          Yes, when Cliven had a snit and quit paying his fees in 1993, he forfeited all rights to them, dummy. The state bought out his neighbors grazing privileges to the tune of about a million dollars, but poor Cliven didn’t get a penny, again, because he forfeited all his grazing privileges. It’s really not that hard to understand.

    • Bob

      Yes, extremely proud of those MEN!!!

    • Judy Jackson

      Of course you weren’t & you never will be. Keyboard warrior.

      • April Herringdine

        Does that look like a keyboard Im holding to you troll?

        • Judy Jackson

          And where was this taken? In Oregon, outside the courthouse or jail? WHAT do you think you are going to accomplish with your one woman protest?

          • Leon Spinkx

            I wonder if April helped Lavoy and Billy scope out BLM buildings to blow up.

          • Judy Jackson

            Maybe.

          • Leon Spinkx

            Them babbies ain’t making themselves.

        • Amanda Blankenship

          Is that the bridge where the Patriot snipers were posted during the Bunkerville standoff?

          • Joe Fogey

            She must be, to be able to stand sideways like that

          • jgreencyclist

            Don’t think so, I see actual trees in the background, of which there weren’t too many at Bunkerville.

  • Thumbs up. Great interview.

  • Leon Spinkx

    Great interview. These Peaceful Protesters were only armed to prevent an FBI takeover of Public Land, and the explosives that Lavoy’s friend William Keebler (RIP) used to attempt to blow up a BLM cabin in Arizona were Free Speech, which is protected by the First Amendment and the Militias.

    • Ambassador David

      Can you say entrapment.
      Feds were running that show.
      What patriot with 1/2 a brain would destroy a perfectly good cabin that would not cost government agents a drop of sweat, but would be used against everybody else?
      Feds were running that show.
      Time to watch a different show.

      • Amanda Blankenship

        Keebler asked the FBI agent to build him a bomb and the FBI obliged. If the FBI agent had said “Hey, let’s blow up a building and here’s a bomb!” – that’s entrapment. Letting some idiot hang himself – not so much.

      • FredDorner

        Keebler was entarped by the feds just like his fellow terrorist LaVoy was.

    • reedrk88t

      That’s a truly stupid comment full of ignorance. You mature much?

    • Bill Anderson

      big difference between going to a public place unarmed and doing a non violent protest, and 50 armed men going to a government building and taking control by force and threat of violence. I can’t quite understand how you can compare the 2 as the same. OR showing up armed , and threatening to KILL anyone who tries to make them leave isn’t using fear to get what they want? That isn’t terrorism? I agree that the term gets thrown around a lot but it is what it is.

      its all on youtube video as well they pretty much fuck them self playing wanna be terrorist

  • Amanda Blankenship

    It wasn’t “the government” who put this guys name in his local paper, it was him. Always the victim, never responsible should be the patriot’s motto.

    • notliberal

      Lets see your personal shit be thrown in the local paper — I bet your not perfect

    • jgreencyclist

      Yes, amazing how a bunch of such rugged individualists turn into whiney victims when they don’t get their way.

      • Bob

        Yes, amazing how many girlymen wearing skinny jeans sipping on latte’s staring at their fake portfolios ….only wishing they could be HALF the “rugged individuals” like the bundys or hammonds! #realmen

        • nvrbl

          They aren’t “realmem”. They are criminals. The Hammonds have put firefighters’ lives in danger on multiple occasions. The Bundy’s and their gang are domestic terrorists

          • Bob

            LOL, I see where you get your information by the way you are spewing govt “propaganda” and lies. Go back to playing your video games in your momma’s basement.

          • Amanda Blankenship

            I always hear about this “mountain of damning evidence” that will be “coming out” but somehow it never materializes.

          • Bob

            “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.” 2 Peter 2:1-3 Amen to that!

          • TK Berger

            If only it WERE just blah blah Jesus blah…Jesus was a Golden Rule love-oriented (and, BTW, not white) dude according to the Bible. Which is where we need to be: blah blah bible blah

          • Michael Elliot

            because it is on facebook and youtube as no government paid news orgs will touch the truth. oh here is a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doVqKkyTQR0 but you know this

          • Amish Prepper

            Why don’t you give it a chance to materialize,,,they have not even started trial yet, do you think they are going to expose it all before trial? That would be stupid! Why on earth would anyone who is going to trial in the fall show a bunch of trolls on Facebook damning evidence, it doesn’t make sense. Not logical!

          • reedrk88t

            To bad you don’t have the facts. It’s ok to sit there and say one thing when it’s actually bullshit and you brought no proof. At no time were the firefighters in any danger. The BLM failed to do proper maint on the fence lines to property which not only bordered public lands but private lands. The ranches were under threat and so were several other places such as the federal land and sever al homes. If you want to spout bullshit then next time come sit in on the public meetings which brought the BLM, forest service and locals to discuss why they refuse to counter the threats.

          • Grant Applegate

            Obviously you don’t have the facts but rely on myths.

          • Amanda Blankenship

            The Hammonds threatened to kill a twelve year old boy, and used a sander on their own child to remove a tattoo. The Hammonds are not nice people, but they will be free men again long before Ammon.

          • Bob

            More Lies! The Hammonds are the salt of the earth! Pure and good….but what would you know about “pure and good”…

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Really? Would it make any difference to you if I posted a link to an article that supports my claims? No, so why would I bother.

          • Bob

            “You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:5 ~~~this verse may have been written especially for you 😉

          • Michael Elliot

            because ,anyone can claim anything ? Write a story and smear you . It is called propaganda and is legal under the repeal of the Smith Mundt act .

      • reedrk88t

        Actuall what’s amazing is the fact you are on here trying to slap people around when you can’t get up in the morning to owe without telling your wife. My point is that at least he had the balls to do what you only dream of doing…. When you were a child.

        • notliberal

          Uhhh I don’t think this guy is into the whole wife thing — just saying — lol

    • notliberal

      Dumb and pretty irresponsible

      • notliberal

        If a person wanted to they could write a really juicy article about you Amanda — It would go something like this

        Today in Yakima Washington, Amanda Blankenship was said to have done some things she’s really not very proud of while attending the University of Puget Sound. Close friends and associates who attended high school with her at AC Davis were shocked to learn she wasn’t exactly the girl they thought she was. <<< get the picture Amanda?

        • Amanda Blankenship

          LOL!! You think that’s me or that any of that information is real? Chain jerking alert – it’s not. Early on in this affair I (stupidly) posted under my real name and not only I but my friends and family were harassed and threatened by “Patriots”. I learned a valuable lesson – don’t piss off violent, aggressive, unhinged people on social media. Since then I’ve been careful to keep six degrees of separation between the real me and what I put out online.

          If you guys had actual arguments instead of guns, threats and intimidation you might get somewhere – until then you are just the crazy fringe.

          • Bob

            Until then YOU are ~~~Just Plain Crazy! ha

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Well, I can’t argue with that. 🙂

          • notliberal

            So you throw an unsuspecting person’s photo out there??? Wow Amanda — that is some kind of not very right. You really are a sick little troll aren’t you?

          • Amanda Blankenship

            So, somewhere an innocent girl is going to be killed by a “Patriot” because of my postings? Wow, when you put it that way I feel pretty bad.

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Yes, when you put it that way, that some poor innocent kid eating an ice cream might get their head blown off by a Patriot because you can’t argue for beans then yes, that would be awful. Changed my avatar – happy now?

          • notliberal

            Oh you definitely have ties to Yakima Washington

          • Amanda Blankenship

            I sure do. Why don’t you drive around town shouting “Amanda!” out your window until you find me?

          • Short answer: Because you’re a nobody.

          • Amanda Blankenship

            I made the Patriot Kill List – that’s something isn’t it? First one too – top of the list. Made me proud.

          • Not really

          • God please don’t write a thesis

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Said Moses as he watched Him write out the Ten Commandments

          • Nah— just busy with other things – Like writing some shit down for God —

          • Amanda Blankenship

            No sense of humor either. Oh well

          • I thought that was a very humorous comeback –

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Yes, and then posting them to facebook. I guess it came out of a Patriot meeting last weekend in Yakima but I don’t really know because i wasn’t there. Would you like to see it? If they let me post hyperlinks here I would let you take a peek.

          • Not interested in the drama. People do what they do. Seems like you might have made some enemies – lol – Hard for me to feel sorry for you. With all due respect. I suppose you reap what you sow and live by the sword — well you get it.

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Yeah, we’ll I’m a free woman doing free woman stuff, and your compatriots aren’t. Reaping – sowing etc…

          • lol — none of us are really free in the end. Many of my more liberal friends can vouch for that.

          • Amanda Blankenship

            Very existential of you. Maybe the jailed patriots can just realize that bars can’t hold them and chose to exist somewhere else and become of that place, disappearing forever of this world? Or, more likely they will rot in prison for a number of years, wishing they were outside so they too could make fun of the concept of freedom.

          • We all rot somewhere – some in prison – some chained to a computer looking for a way to feel relevant.

          • If someone is out there making kill list I would consider them as stupid as you are

        • Grant Applegate

          Amanda sure has your number. LOL!

          • notliberal

            I have it’s number — it has a fake photo and fake profile on Facebook so it can troll without having to be responsible for what it does online. Obviously DISQUS will want to know about it’s activity too.

          • Grant Applegate

            Keep chasing your tail LOL!

          • notliberal

            I don’t chase –

          • Grant Applegate

            Oh, but you are. You people are so ignorant.

          • notliberal

            You think? Don’t be so sure of yourself. I know more than you think.

          • Grant Applegate

            Not likely.

        • Les

          You are not only stupid, but you are a nasty little sob.

          • notliberal

            Stupid is as stupid does my friend

    • Bob

      The Patriots don’t need a motto…the name itself oozes goodness, mercy, love and respect! Truth will prevail. God ALWAYS wins 🙂 Have an awesome day.

      • Judy Jackson

        The patriots motto is “GIVE ME YOUR MONEY BECAUSE I AM TOO LAZY & USELESS TO ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING”.

        • reedrk88t

          Oh Judy, are you not the same hypocritical bitch who spewed this same bullshit online and fb before getting shut down? Your the same stupid woman who is currently under investigation by state for fraudulent accusations against people and false testimony to the papers? What about the false bs given to the police, who by the way…. Laughed ?

          • Judy Jackson

            Nope. Never been shut down, never been investigated. I think you are a bit confused. BUT, not surprising, most potatriots aren’t the brightest crayons in the box.

          • notliberal

            well you are now — lol

          • Bob

            Potatriots? LOL enough said.

          • Judy Jackson

            I think you have me confused with the patriot princesses like SSG. Moe also known as THE stupidest woman in the “movement”. Or maybe Sarah Redd Buck who apparently LOVES other women’s husbands? I especially like the faithful females who were going to be at the Portland Courthouse EVERY SINGLE DAY until the “political prisoners” are freed. Of course, they are taking the summer off to work on their tans. Hilarious. You losers are great entertainment. There are whiney men who were “going to stay at Malheur forever” but were BEGGING for snacks & warm clothes within 48 hours. Seriously, what kind of morons don’t bring warm clothes to Oregon in the winter time? Then there were the Facebook pages for all the “patriots” to ride share to Oregon. One teensy problem with that. NO ONE has a car or money for gas. EVERY single post was someone begging for a ride, begging for money. Do NONE of you people work?

          • Bob

            Those MEN are the hardest working MEN on the earth. A little window into the future: “Those who are last now will be first, and those who are first now will be last.” —-Matthew 20:16 😊

          • Judy Jackson

            Then why don’t any of them have the money to pay for lawyers when they get in trouble? All of the Malheur occupiers, except for Ammon Bundy have public defenders. WHY does every single social media site have a please donate button. Why does every events page have more people begging for money, rides, etc. than anything else? People with real jobs don’t have time to run around the country playing fake soldier.

          • Bob

            People with REAL jobs don’t have time to run around putting out ALL the fake propaganda media lies and stories about these REAL MEN with REAL JOBS and families. REAL people who care about other REAL people reach out and help. “Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth” Matthew 5:5

          • notliberal

            So where do you find the time to work so hard in this thread? Of course unless it’s your job to be here???

          • Judy Rae Jackson

            I have every other weekend off from work & had a fall last night so I am stuck on the couch today. I have osteoporosis & have had multiple fractures of my right ankle. It isn’t broken this time but it is badly sprained. I go back to work on Monday.

          • notliberal

            Now whose being a cry-baby butt?

          • Amanda Blankenship

            If they are “the hardest working men on Earth” why are most of them unemployed, disabled, retired, or living off donations? People with real jobs and real families can’t just pack up and go whenever the revolution calls them because people with real jobs and families have responsibilities.

          • Bob

            Do you ever start to believe your own lies? Just curious.
            “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” ~~~~~John 8:44

          • Amanda Blankenship

            When you run out of arguments, start quoting The Bible.

          • Bob

            Scared? Whats wrong, cat got your tongue? “Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.” John 17:17

          • Bill Anderson

            cherry pick this Bob ,,,, When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at
            the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who
            bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not
            allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the
            contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to
            marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must
            treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes
            another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep
            with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may
            leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

          • Bob

            That is too easy! That was before the new covenant that God made with humans. Now we are under the new covenant of Jesus whom died on the cross for our sins. Aka before Christ (BC) and after Christ (AC)… Keep them coming…I love the bible challenges.

          • jgreencyclist

            Twilight Zone music again.

          • Jean A. Roberts

            I’m waiting for the movie.

          • Judy Rae Jackson

            I think they should have a meeting with one of the “reality” shows. They could call it “Days of Patriot Failures”.

          • notliberal

            No I think it goes — When you want to run an argument and watch a bunch of dumbed down liberals loose their shit — you start quoting the bible — lol

          • notliberal

            Sounds like most of the liberals I know — But shhhh we won’t talk-about that here

          • notliberal

            WOW!!

          • jgreencyclist

            They all work, or worked – past tense, in 19th century industries.

          • Judy Jackson

            “You’re”. English is hard.

        • notliberal

          Judy — Isn’t that what you liberal types are always asking for? I mean even if what you say is true here – Isn’t that your vision of the New America? Feel the Bern and all that shit?

    • reedrk88t

      You are incorrect and you don’t have the facts to back it. His name was being used prior to the papers printing unverified facts. There is and has been proof in court already that he was wrongfully accused of fraud. Doubt me? Go to the court house and look it up. Several suits levied against him were thrown out and several counter suits have been filed and are scheduled. Unless you can show me proof of what comes out of your ignorant mouth then I suggest shutting it before you get dragged into court.

  • jgreencyclist

    “I lost what was left of my business. I can’t even pass a security check at the airport to meet my daughter at the gate when she flies home from seeing her mother.’ You’re gonna make me cry…

    • notliberal

      Oh look — it’s j the green bicycle rider —

    • Bob

      wow demons have emotions? Who knew

    • Judy Jackson

      Maybe Brandon baby butt should have been focusing on business. How many bankruptcies has this pathetic loser filed? I do feel sorry for the children of these halfwits.

      • reedrk88t

        Maybe Judy needs to disappear before she faces more issues in court.

        • Judy Jackson

          I wish I knew who you were talking about. The only time I have been in court was as a juror. It was interesting.

          • notliberal

            Look it’s Judy Jackson’s family!!

          • Judy Jackson

            Nope, I keep my family pictures private & MOST are the old fashioned, non-digital pictures. They are in albums in my book cases.

          • Bob

            I thought with age comes wisdom. Apparently not.

          • notliberal

            You are not the only Judy Jackson on the planet you idiot — seriously Judy you cannot even play —

          • notliberal

            and just so you know — there is no such thing as privacy anymore

          • Judy Rae Jackson

            I am the only Judy Jackson who matters, at least in my little corner of the planet.

          • notliberal

            Oh yeah — I can see that

      • Bob

        Oh Judy Judy Judy: “You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:5

        • Les

          Is quoting fairy tales the best you can do?

          • Leon Spinkx

            Yes.

    • reedrk88t

      Says someone who he never stood for anything but the rat that ran under your feet.

  • Bob

    Brandon I’m very proud of you and you did what any God fearing American loving Patriot would do. It always cracks me up when people try to pull all these skeletons out of your closet for display (real or not) and there are mountains of skeletons in their own back yard! Lol. Reminds me of that good ole bible verse…”instead of trying to get the speck out of my eyes, you need to get the log out of yours”… Enough said.

  • Judy Jackson

    PTSD my ass. These guys are grifting con men who should all be in jail. The Bundy Butts are the BIGGEST bunch of whiney ass babies I have ever seen.

    • notliberal

      Oh Judy darling, We’ve missed you I see you’re cranky again this morning — Running low on bi-polar meds again? No worries we understand.

    • notliberal

      You realize you used butt and ass in the same sentence — right?

      • Les

        And???? So what?

        • notliberal

          wow les, just an observation you crackhead — stop tweaking

  • paul

    My fellow Americans, brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen! Three score and 5 years ago my fore father set me down upon this continent, with some help from mom! moms matter! In the course of that human event they failed to provide enough free land for me to rule!

    I view their actions as a miscarriage of justice! I should have been properly catered to, by them or big government! I am seeking to rectify this injustice through the help of my fellow Americans, true patriots! I don’t want to spend my remaining years in a cell whining about how unfair the system is, so please help!

    https://www.gofundme.com/wcz53dce

  • Grant Applegate

    I love works of fiction

  • FredDorner

    “I can’t even pass a security check at the airport”

    Aiding and abetting domestic terrorists can have that effect.

  • Bill Anderson

    This clown would not know what PTSD if he was butt rape by a herd of Buffalo’s he fucked himself personally and financially, no one else did it but him self,

  • Grant Applegate

    I love works of fiction!

  • Lynn Kopa Balogh

    God has said beware of The Great Deciever tthat comes in my name. Damn if everything they said to get people to go to the Bundy ranch turned out to be lies. Then the lies about what the Hammond did and about the claims of stealing land. All the out to lies so the Bundy get what they want. All spelled out plainly in historical records and court transcripts. Everything they have claimed is to drag others into risking their lives and family’s for lies. Bundys group and militia followers are the devils spawn.

  • 1CaptKarl1

    Dear Americans,

    Did you know that the U.S. Government is literally burning the farms, ranches, businesses, mines and homes of American families in the West?

    Did you know that many hundreds of American farmers, ranchers, miners, businesses and simple American families, in the West, have been driven away from their homes by the U.S. Government?

    Do you know that these U.S. Government BLM, FBI, DHS, DOJ, US Fish and Wildlife agents of tyranny and TERROR are moving East now, and are in Montana and blanketing the U.S., from West to East?

    Do you know that a few dozen American Constitutional Patriots, who tried to restore the rule of our Ninth and TENTH Amendment laws that are specifically designed to protect our very LIVES, LIBERTY and PROPERTY of all Americans, from our elected and appointed Republican and Democrat usurpers and despots in our Municipal, County, State and U.S. Governments and their hired henchmen, are NOW Political Prisoners?

    Do you know that some of those Patriots stopped U.S. Government professional snipers from aiming down on the Bundy ranch family, children and grandchildren who were working and/or playing in their yard?

    Did you know that 47 of those God, family and America loving, Constitutional Patriots in support of the rule of Ninth and TENTH Amendment law and order, have been hunted down, one by one, like dogs, and thrown in Political Prison, without their 8th Amendment Right to bail?

    Did you know that our elected and appointed Republican and Democrat enemies of our Ninth and TENTH Amendment laws, had Dwight and Steve Hammon arrested and taken to Political Prison IN DOUBLE JEOPARDY, calling them “Domestic Terrorists” for a controlled burn that went 100 feet too far before they got control and put it out?

    The 47 are now languishing as Political Prisoners for, as Oregon Governor Kate Brown stated; “Spreading the Virus (of the Ninth and TENTH Amendment Constitutional laws) into the next County.” ? ? ? They are being persecuted in jail and are not even being fed property. They have turned white and frail.

    Did you know that, in a Joint State of Oregon and U.S. Government Operation, these tyrants executed the honorable, noble and peaceful Constitutional Patriot LaVoy Finicum in cold blood, shooting him in the back with his hands up?

    PLEASE, PLEASE, Stand Up for Them!

    https://youtu.be/1nCV4PzZU-M

    – Capt. Karl
    National Chairman and Senior Advisor
    SOLIDARITY for Ninth and TENTH Amendments COALITION
    &
    The Constitutional 10 U.S. Code § 311 American Militia Freedom Forces / Utah State Unorganized Militia
    – The A-Team

  • Vickie Mullen

    I glanced at a few of the comments but instead of responding to those I would like to respond to the article posted. I know all of our time is valuable especially when we want to try to make things better for ourselves and the ones we care about. My involvement with ranchers and their plight with the BLM started 30 years ago. Issues had started long before that probably back to Taylor Grazing Act if not before.

    In looking back one key eye-opening time for me was being at a trade show in Burns Oregon in the mid-90’s. a bumper sticker had been put out that said Cattle Free by ’93. A dear friend and artist did one that said Cattle Galore by ’94. Driving to Burns I had to pass through lots of smoke from range fires. When I got to the show I found out we where set up was next to the fire fighters staging area. As the ridges burned it was pointed out to me by ranchers and firefighters alike, that taking cows off public lands was not good for anyone.

    Small and large animals alike could not outrun these massive fast moving range fires and the dead and dying animals made a gruesome drive home as some made it to roadsides. People, property, animals, and feed is destroyed when the government agency takes a no fight fire policy but allows the fuel to stay on the ground.

    This was also a time when I first learned about the abuse of power some agency personal used to bring ranchers into compliance. I was naive, I guess, but threats against getting permits, harm to themselves, or family was common. (Note– This is not all people at all agencies but ones that abused the power they had. unfortunately, they to often are the ones who rose in the ranks as well.) The stories I heard while at shows, selling products to these good decent people just made me speechless. i collected these stories and shared them with RANGE magazine. Nature Conservancy using endangered species act to gain water was the worst then. Still going on today with more and different abuses and now I am sorry to say really never surprised.

    Fast forward to 2014– When I saw a 1st amendment corral on TV in Bunkerville I was outraged. I went to gather information and see for myself as did others from all over the world. My point is I have followed this over the years and the impacted people have become known to me, my friends, and/or customers.

    Now in response to the article– I believe in free speech and will defend your right to disagree with anything I say or anyone else says.

    First thank-you to all involved who made this interview possible and for the courage to speak your truth Mr Curtiss. After just reading a few post I can see that it must be hard. So thank-you–

    Please know that many of us think you did all humanly possible to bring this event to the best outcome. Please sleep sounder knowing I am one of many who know in my heart that your words are true on that. Thank-you also for pointing out the heroic job Barbara Berg did on trying to get people out safely.

    It is fairly easy to find fault with an individual whom you disagree with. What is much harder is to do the homework, read the source documents, go back 50 years or more and really try to get a sense of where someone else is at in that moment in their life.

    I am a flawed human but I do try to do the work or have personal experience before posting. I try to verify with several ranchers before commenting on a policy that may be used for or against them.

    Sometimes in life an overwhelming urge comes over you to try to make things right, to tell the story, to make the world listen, to know that you have tried for years but because it is remote and not the middle of a metro area that no one cares or is listening. These events changed that narrative. For 30 years I have been trying to help ranchers voices be heard, get their stores out, and not gotten very far.

    I personally worked for 28 years before seeing any major news outlet even discuss the Great Basin, and other ranchers issues. For more information RANGE magazine has covered the last 25 years extensively. Sincerely, Vickie Mullen

  • tammyhill

    Yes, GREAT job Deb!!!! Thank you. Praying for you guys!!!

  • DALLAS AHRENS

    Great Interview. I met Brandon and he is a True patriot. Good job Deb !

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